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Comment: Part 2 of SDA training; how long the standards will be in draft form ( as consented by members)

Vision: Support a contemporary Ecovillage community at Narara that demonstrates economic, social and environmental regenerative capacity through Building  Standards that encourage the building of sustainable housing.

Mission: Update the NEV Building Standards in accordance the requirements of new legislation (BASIX, NatHERS, council LEPs), the Stage 2 sub division as it affects the Hill Thalis guidelines and other experience gained during Stage 1.

Aims:

  • To review existing feedback from the BRP and to research, reflect and consult with specialist individuals, working groups and circles
  • To review external standards and the experience of architects, engineers, designers, assessors and builders who have worked with the village during Stage 1.
  • To maintain regular communication with the broader membership
  • To prepare and present a set of proposed changes to the existing building standards by 30 June 2021 or ASAP

Domain:

  • As a sub-circle of the Steering Circle, the Stage 2 Building Standards review circle is set up to research, consult and develop proposed changes to the existing Building Standards. 
  • The Stage 2 Building Standards review circle holds no decision-making authority but is required to advise its recommendations to the Steering Circle, the Board, the cooperative members and the members of the Community Association who will approve these standards as part of the Community Management Statement (CMS).


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NEV Building Standards Stage 2 v1.9

Word document

Scoresheet

Presentation

References

National Construction Code

BASIX changes

Central Coast Council

Stage 2 Water System - OSD requirements


NEV Building Standards Stage 2 v1.9

In draft form until 2 members have submitted designs to BRPinterim form until "...after having worked through a couple of DA submissions to Council..." from consent mtg

Word document

 - NEV Building Standards Stage 2 v1.9.docx

Scoresheet

 - BRP NEV_Building_Standards_Assessment_Scoresheet- v18.9.xlsx

Presentation

 - (TBD)

References

National Construction Code

  NatHERS increased to 7 stars with transition period to 1/10/23 - adopted 1/5/23

 - https://ncc.abcb.gov.au/news/2022/whats-new-about-ncc-2022

 - https://www.energy.gov.au/news-media/news/national-construction-code-ncc-updates-mean-energy-efficiency-ratings-expansion-new-residences

BASIX changes to be adopted on 1/10/23 e.g. 7 stars

 - https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/BASIX-standards

Central Coast Council - changes to LEP & DCP

  - https://cdn.centralcoast.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/general-information/local-environmental-plan-lep/factsheetcclepanddcp24june2022final.pdf

 - LEP https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/epi-2022-0308

 - DCP https://www.centralcoast.nsw.gov.au/plan-and-build/planning-controls/central-coast-development-control-plan-2022

Stage 2 Water System

Henry & Hymas Stage 2 - Lot On-site Detention requirements

 -  https://files.nararaecovillage.com/index.php/s/N52ToCaaWoWNYQC



SDA Training Pt 3

Video - sound was not turned on. See slides

Pt 3 Slides link (stream to any device) - TBDSlides - TBD

Q&A

- TBD

SDA Training Pt 2

Video link (stream to any device) - SDA Training Session 2

Slides - Pt 2 slides

                                    Q&A

QuestionsAnswerThis could be a lot of work. How many houses will we each get? And will most of this info need to be provided by the owner/builder etc?4-5 homes per SDA, but say 2 each year. Owner to supply most info, but SDA to assist. As-Built is not mandatory, but a little harder to pass the scoresheet if you dont. SDAs helping Owners could really help in Stage 2, as several Members in Stage 1 had builder issues that slowed them down.I would imagine that you will guide us on the documentation required eg where do we get legal advice from?Yes, on Sat we will show where the info is on each document. Legal advice is for the Owners - buyer bewareDo we have any building contract templates including these points?Yes, HIA, MBA & Fair Trading (latter is best for Owners, and there is a special NEV schedule which you can use)What is the bond? How much? Paid to/held by NEV?The bond is in case there is damage to CA property. It is $1500, redunded at the end if no damage. Held by NEVCan the owners/builders fill in some of this documentation which SDAs can then double check?Yes. The Co-op also provided the SEE template, Geotech reports and bushfire reports for each lot in stage 1.WOW! What a lot of foundational work has been done; congrats and thanks to all.

QuestionAnswer
Do homes need to be stylish as part of sustainable?You just need to meet high performance, although there are neighbour consults, and council
Can we use grey water recycling?Yes
What is the NatHERS ventilation system in IEQ?Heat recovery system to minimise mould for well-sealed homes
Can your builder put photos of progress on Social Media?Ask your builder or put it in your contract
Will the NEV Approval Design Checklist be updated for Stage 2?Yes
Can we transition to Stage 2 standards once 1/10/23 comes along?We will put it to members, since SDA and BRP jobs will be too hard
How long does council take to approve?6-8 months for approval
Do we need to get 2 DAs thru BRP or through council?Possibly - JS to clarify wording and see if this can happen - Draft consent was at  https://wiki.nararaecovillage.com/display/MC/2022-10-09+Hybrid+Members%27+Meeting where the standards will stay in Interim form until "...after having worked through a couple of DA submissions to Council..."

SDA Training Pt 2

Video link (stream to any device) - SDA Training Session 2

Slides - Pt 2 slides

                                    Q&A

QuestionsAnswer
This could be a lot of work. How many houses will we each get? And will most of this info need to be provided by the owner/builder etc?4-5 homes per SDA, but say 2 each year. Owner to supply most info, but SDA to assist. As-Built is not mandatory, but a little harder to pass the scoresheet if you dont. SDAs helping Owners could really help in Stage 2, as several Members in Stage 1 had builder issues that slowed them down.
I would imagine that you will guide us on the documentation required eg where do we get legal advice from?Yes, on Sat we will show where the info is on each document. Legal advice is for the Owners - buyer beware
Do we have any building contract templates including these points?Yes, HIA, MBA & Fair Trading (latter is best for Owners, and there is a special NEV schedule which you can use)
What is the bond? How much? Paid to/held by NEV?The bond is in case there is damage to CA property. It is $1500, redunded at the end if no damage. Held by NEV
Can the owners/builders fill in some of this documentation which SDAs can then double check?Yes. The Co-op also provided the SEE template, Geotech reports and bushfire reports for each lot in stage 1.
WOW! What a lot of foundational work has been done; congrats and thanks to all.
Where does the Concrete tank specification come from? What about Water Sensitive Urban Design (WSUD) options?JS to ask Grant - what does pre cast tank mean? TBA
The excerpt from Henry & Hyman Feb 2021 DA submission is "Each lot will be required to provide OSD in the form of a
modified pre-cast rainwater tank fit with an orifice plate, which will collect flows from the roof catchment. In order to ensure that sufficient capacity within the downstream stormwater system is maintained and that council’s OSD policy is adhered to, the future lots will be required to provide OSD as per the following conditions:
The proposed roof areas will require the following orifices and tank sizes. It is assumed that each tank will have between 0.75 and 1.5m of head from the top of the tank to the centre of the orifice. Linear interpolation should be used to ensure the correct tank size and orifice diameter is achieved for each future development within the lots. (Table 4 shows that a 150m2 roof area requires a 58mm diameter orifice plate; a 3,000L tank size and 0.75m head from TWL (top water level) to orifice.).
Deferred commencement provisions of NSW’s Local Government Act to lodge their Development Application with Central Coast Council prior to land titles being issued for Stage 1 Works.'Deferred commencement - tried in Stage 1, approved, but could not start till Lot number was allocated
Michael can I just clarify the water diagram requirements JonThe WICA licence requires non-potable water to be connected to toilet
Can we still use water tank and non-potable as well for toilet?Probably with careful design


SDA Training Pt 1 - Intro

Video link (stream to any device) - SDA1 video (1.5 hours)

Slides - Pt 1 slides with links

                                    Q&A

QuestionsAnswer

Is there a final map of walkways now completed, and

Do normal setbacks need to be added to the walkway width, or does a specified setback (e.g. 4.5m) include the walkway?

Not yet - As-Built drawings still to be completed once the Stage 2 is finished.

Setbacks from boundaries

Is Passive House the same as Passiv Haus?Yes
It sounds a bit difficult to be an owner builder?Need lots of time, need experience & good contacts
Building heights - 8m vs 10m. When would 10m be applicable?10m only for certain circumstances e.g. steep site, chimneys
Does that mean solar panels facing west will help with peak load?Yes, in the evening
Could you elaborate on the 'plus 50% max cooling load'?This helps towards heatwaves into the future. We will show more of this next week
Has NEV Power looked at more West facing panels in Stage 2Yes, we reward that. But not all homes can do this, with shading
Will the Slides be posted, & will links work?Yes on Wiki at https://wiki.nararaecovillage.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58460651 (this page (wink))
Can we copy designs?

See our Member Building Workshops NEV Member Building Meetings - Help with your home design ;

Your Home - home designs, climates, star ratings - https://www.yourhome.gov.au/house-designs

What about containers, tiny homes?Newcastle org that fits out containers - JS has contact; they can be small, hot and need a lot of retrofitting
Re Tiny homes, info is in the standards on Wiki - see above link
Where does the Concrete tank specification come from? What about Water Sensitive Urban Design (WSUD) options?JS to ask Grant - what does pre cast tank mean? TBA
The excerpt from Henry & Hyman Feb 2021 DA submission is "Each lot will be required to provide OSD in the form of a
modified pre-cast rainwater tank fit with an orifice plate, which will collect flows from the roof catchment. In order to ensure that sufficient capacity within the downstream stormwater system is maintained and that council’s OSD policy is adhered to, the future lots will be required to provide OSD as per the following conditions:
The proposed roof areas will require the following orifices and tank sizes. It is assumed that each tank will have between 0.75 and 1.5m of head from the top of the tank to the centre of the orifice. Linear interpolation should be used to ensure the correct tank size and orifice diameter is achieved for each future development within the lots. (Table 4 shows that a 150m2 roof area requires a 58mm diameter orifice plate; a 3,000L tank size and 0.75m head from TWL (top water level) to orifice.).
Deferred commencement provisions of NSW’s Local Government Act to lodge their Development Application with Central Coast Council prior to land titles being issued for Stage 1 Works.'Deferred commencement - tried in Stage 1, approved, but could not start till Lot number was allocatedMichael can I just clarify the water diagram requirements JonThe WICA licence requires non-potable water to be connected to toiletCan we still use water tank and non-potable as well for toilet?Probably with careful design

SDA Training Pt 1 - Intro

Video link (stream to any device) - SDA1 video (1.5 hours)

Slides - Pt 1 slides with links

                                    Q&A

QuestionsAnswer

Is there a final map of walkways now completed, and

Do normal setbacks need to be added to the walkway width, or does a specified setback (e.g. 4.5m) include the walkway?

Not yet - As-Built drawings still to be completed once the Stage 2 is finished.

Setbacks from boundaries

Is Passive House the same as Passiv Haus?YesIt sounds a bit difficult to be an owner builder?Need lots of time, need experience & good contactsBuilding heights - 8m vs 10m. When would 10m be applicable?10m only for certain circumstances e.g. steep site, chimneysDoes that mean solar panels facing west will help with peak load?Yes, in the eveningCould you elaborate on the 'plus 50% max cooling load'?This helps towards heatwaves into the future. We will show more of this next weekHas NEV Power looked at more West facing panels in Stage 2Yes, we reward that. But not all homes can do this, with shadingWill the Slides be posted, & will links work?Yes on Wiki at https://wiki.nararaecovillage.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58460651 (this page (wink))Can we copy designs?

See our Member Building Workshops NEV Member Building Meetings - Help with your home design ;

Your Home - home designs, climates, star ratings - https://www.yourhome.gov.au/house-designs

What about containers, tiny homes?Newcastle org that fits out containers - JS has contact; they can be small, hot and need a lot of retrofitting
Re Tiny homes, info is in the standards on Wiki - see above link

References

National Construction Code - NatHERS increased to 7 stars with transition period to 1/10/23 - adopted 1/5/23

- https://ncc.abcb.gov.au/news/2022/whats-new-about-ncc-2022

 - https://www.energy.gov.au/news-media/news/national-construction-code-ncc-updates-mean-energy-efficiency-ratings-expansion-new-residences

BASIX changes to be adopted on 1/10/23 e.g. 7 stars - https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/BASIX-standards

Central Coast Council - changes to LEP & DCP - https://cdn.centralcoast.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/general-information/local-environmental-plan-lep/factsheetcclepanddcp24june2022final.pdf

 - LEP https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/epi-2022-0308

 - DCP https://www.centralcoast.nsw.gov.au/plan-and-build/planning-controls/central-coast-development-control-plan-2022

Stage 2 Water System

Henry & Hymas Stage 2 requirements https://files.nararaecovillage.com/index.php/s/N52ToCaaWoWNYQC


Draft Recommendations for the CA meeting on 2/4/22    v1.8

(uploaded 28/3/22)

Presentation with recent updates in colours

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Word document with recent updates in colours

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Draft Recommendations v1.3

Final Draft Presentation to all Members - 12/3/22

12:50 for 1-4pm Sat 12/3/22 - Stage 2 Building Standards Zoom Workshop - Final Draft
Graham Hunt, Andy Marlow and the Stage 2 Building Standards Working Group will present the final draft of the standards for members comment before consent at a Members Mtg so that members can work on the design of their houses.

A short presentation will be followed by breakout rooms to answer questions and then a Q&A.


https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89669705538?pwd=NkFoTmhhQ2xETGFteUFWS2czcE00dz09
Meeting ID: 896 6970 5538
Passcode: 643950



Draft Recommendations v1.3

Information Presentation to Stage 2 Members - 5/2/22

Here is the presentation made to the Stage 2 Members via Zoom on Sat 5/2/22 of the recommendations from this committee, with the assistance of Grant Rickey, Stage 2 Development Manager; Jon Ellis, Secretary BRP; Graham Hunt, Architect from DHW; and Andy Marlow, Architect from Envirotecture.

NB: This is a very large file (320MB) for computer download - we are looking at a subscription service to able to stream it to all devices in a privacy-secure manner so the material is not edited.

Link

Workshop & Chat Questions

These have been uploaded to the end of our NEV Building & Landscape Standards - Stage 2 Recommendations - FAQs.

Workshop Slides

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Graham Hunt

Graham's presentation on how to achieve a low cooling energy for NatHERS in "Cooling Strategies"

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Andy Marlow

Links from Andy

Other References:

John Shiel's BZE book (peer reviewed including by Graham Hunt) and free on the web as a pdf - "Cooling Your Home - Home Retrofits, Appliances and Adaptions for a Hotter Future".

This averages 3 houses with simulation energy from NatHERS for cooling, and ranks the best strategies - retrofits, appliances and behaviour. It has a table of the most effective cooling features, and another table ranking them by least cost.

https://bze.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Cooling-your-home-24-Nov-compressed.pdf



Text version (v1.3) of the Building Standards Review

The text version of the Stage 2 review is available here for members. A document with major differences to Stage 1 standards will be created too.

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Draft Recommendations v1.0 - Presentation

Here is the presentation made to the Community Association on 2/10/21 of the recommendations from this committee.

The text is blue where there are changes to the initial recommendations made to the Steering Committee on 5/6/21.

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Regular Monthly Meetings on NEV Building Design

One of the popular changes to the building standards was that the current level of support in helping members should be increased, with regular meetings, and communication in various media including in SLACK, in the NELN newsletter and in Despatch emails.

Members are keen to share their designs and are rewarded in our scoresheet for doing this, so these will present opportunities for this, as well as benefits to newer members designing their homes.

Members Building Meetings

First Mtg - Sat 26/2/22 - 12:50pm - Dan & Deb Mohr's home design

How to design a sustainable heatwave proof house (80% reduction in NatHERS cooling energy). Includes a video clip of Graham Hunt explaining the main features to keep the house cool.

Overview of houses in Stage 1 (materials, design features)

Plus breakout rooms and Q&A.

Assets are at NEV Member Building Meetings - Help with your home design

Next Mtg - Sat 26/3/22 - TBD


Circles and teams

  • Sustainable Design Appraisers (SDAs) – help with your design and scorecard
  • Building Review Panel (BRP) – if your design meets the standard, BRP stamps your drawings before they go the State planning portal
  • Member building meetings - monthly forum for members to design home, learn, include experts and arrange speakers
    1. Member Building Group – members, SDAs, and experts (Architects, engineers, builders, assessors, designers) to help members with designs
    2. Members and non-members are welcome


Frequently Asked Questions

A set of questions and answers from our presentations can be found here NEV Building & Landscape Standards - Stage 2 Recommendations - FAQs



Questions from members and those in Stage 2

In the area below, please leave any questions for our Building Standards working group.